Comments on: Support Local Talent http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/ Reviewing the arts in the Lancaster & South lakes areas Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:05:19 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mollie Baxter http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-226 Mollie Baxter Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:18:01 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-226 Why break the habit of a lifetime... ;-) Why break the habit of a lifetime… ;-)

]]> By: James knight http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-224 James knight Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:33:45 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-224 God molly, that was sooooo last week ;) God molly, that was sooooo last week ;)

]]> By: Moll Baxter http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-221 Moll Baxter Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:13:38 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-221 Blimey - it's all been happening... A review site that only says positive things about acts might be briefly useful for the acts (promo material) but would soon lose credit with the readers and so would soon be of no use to the acts either. How can a review not be opinionated? How can it not be subjective? It would have to be a tape/film recording of the act posted on site... I don't always agree with Kev's appraisals, but ultimately the only thing that differs about the validity of mine and his opinions is that he has typed his up and posted them (Apart from the one I did do of Fell foot!). That takes balls, let alone a pink beard. Kev has repeatedly invited people to contribute their own reviews - he's created a space. If people want to respond, they can. They should. I don't think Kev is presenting himself as the One True Verdict. But it needn't get personal - people should (IMO) present an alternative review NOT lay in to the original reviewer (unless the reviewer really has crossed a line) I think a lot of this is because this is the first time in a long time we've had a forum where local artists are taken seriously and we're still settling in. Having said that, a bad review will probably knock those with growing experience and less-calloused hides. So, maybe there is a compromise to strike here. It would be good if new talents were supported as well as being toughened up! This would require the reviewer to do their homework beforehand. A little diplomacy here and there. And if telling the truth as they see it is more important to them (and for some reviewers presumably it would be) then they take the flak for it. If they misjudge it too many times, they will lose readers and credibility in the same way a performer will lose credibility and audiences. Anyway, we might all have moved on now anyway.... Mollie Blimey – it’s all been happening…

A review site that only says positive things about acts might be briefly useful for the acts (promo material) but would soon lose credit with the readers and so would soon be of no use to the acts either.

How can a review not be opinionated? How can it not be subjective? It would have to be a tape/film recording of the act posted on site…

I don’t always agree with Kev’s appraisals, but ultimately the only thing that differs about the validity of mine and his opinions is that he has typed his up and posted them (Apart from the one I did do of Fell foot!). That takes balls, let alone a pink beard. Kev has repeatedly invited people to contribute their own reviews – he’s created a space. If people want to respond, they can. They should. I don’t think Kev is presenting himself as the One True Verdict.

But it needn’t get personal – people should (IMO) present an alternative review NOT lay in to the original reviewer (unless the reviewer really has crossed a line) I think a lot of this is because this is the first time in a long time we’ve had a forum where local artists are taken seriously and we’re still settling in.

Having said that, a bad review will probably knock those with growing experience and less-calloused hides. So, maybe there is a compromise to strike here. It would be good if new talents were supported as well as being toughened up! This would require the reviewer to do their homework beforehand. A little diplomacy here and there. And if telling the truth as they see it is more important to them (and for some reviewers presumably it would be) then they take the flak for it. If they misjudge it too many times, they will lose readers and credibility in the same way a performer will lose credibility and audiences.

Anyway, we might all have moved on now anyway….

Mollie

]]> By: James Knight http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-216 James Knight Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:35:52 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-216 Make love and war Make love and war

]]> By: WiredR http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-213 WiredR Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:37:11 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-213 Christ, if this debate keeps going any longer i'm gonna have to rush out and buy a dictionary. Wish i'd concentrated more at school now. WeirdRx Christ, if this debate keeps going any longer i’m gonna have to rush out and buy a dictionary. Wish i’d concentrated more at school now.
WeirdRx

]]> By: Paul Walmsley http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-209 Paul Walmsley Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:39:41 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-209 Even if that were true, then the very nature of this site is open to it. It isn't a closed magazine but interactive; therefore, the slappers should expect to become slappees occasionally. Even if that were true, then the very nature of this site is open to it. It isn’t a closed magazine but interactive; therefore, the slappers should expect to become slappees occasionally.

]]> By: Barry Carp http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-208 Barry Carp Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:42:15 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-208 Rights have everything to do with it , rights are hard fought and something not universally enjoyed. Look at China at the moment. A review site is a declaration of certain freedoms and rights. I mean, I presume that you, David, enjoyed your 'right' to vote on thursday? Of course. whats really happening here, on this thread, is a semantic bitch slapping contest. Rights have everything to do with it , rights are hard fought and something not universally enjoyed. Look at China at the moment. A review site is a declaration of certain freedoms and rights. I mean, I presume that you, David, enjoyed your ‘right’ to vote on thursday? Of course. whats really happening here, on this thread, is a semantic bitch slapping contest.

]]> By: David Wright http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-207 David Wright Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:50:42 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-207 I don't fully understand what rights have to with anything. It's not as though there's one group of people who believe in freedom of speech and another who think the lunecy review should be silenced. That would be Totally Weird and it is disingenuous to imply that that is the choice on offer. I don’t fully understand what rights have to with anything.

It’s not as though there’s one group of people who believe in freedom of speech and another who think the lunecy review should be silenced. That would be Totally Weird and it is disingenuous to imply that that is the choice on offer.

]]> By: WiredR http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-204 WiredR Sat, 06 Jun 2009 10:42:56 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-204 Thanks Jan - for pointing out your review from The Storey - i think you have a case with that one! Good to see Kev offer to withdraw it as well. I think all of us can learn from this debate we have had over the last week, at times its been fascinating, other times its been a bit over the top. What it has shown is that The Lunecy Review is something we should all support and where possible contribute to. I totally defend Kev's right for freedom of expression as long as it doesn't get personal. Remember anybody who disagrees with Kev, has the right to argue/debate their case on this website - again as long as its constructive and not personal. I'm sure this is what Kevin had in mind when setting up his site. I'd be gutted if Kev packed in this site, there's absolutely nothing else out there that is anything remotely like The Lunecy Review. We all need this website, its vital!! So many people i've bumped into in Lancaster this week have all commented on Kev's site - the more people who read and contribute to the site the better. Thanks Jan – for pointing out your review from The Storey – i think you have a case with that one! Good to see Kev offer to withdraw it as well.
I think all of us can learn from this debate we have had over the last week, at times its been fascinating, other times its been a bit over the top. What it has shown is that The Lunecy Review is something we should all support and where possible contribute to. I totally defend Kev’s right for freedom of expression as long as it doesn’t get personal.
Remember anybody who disagrees with Kev, has the right to argue/debate their case on this website – again as long as its constructive and not personal.
I’m sure this is what Kevin had in mind when setting up his site.
I’d be gutted if Kev packed in this site, there’s absolutely nothing else out there that is anything remotely like The Lunecy Review.
We all need this website, its vital!!
So many people i’ve bumped into in Lancaster this week have all commented on Kev’s site – the more people who read and contribute to the site the better.

]]> By: thelunecyreview http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/support-local-talent/#comment-203 thelunecyreview Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:26:14 +0000 http://thelunecyreview.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-203 It's pink! And only I do, other contributors don't. -- Kev x It’s pink! And only I do, other contributors don’t. — Kev x

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